George Negus and the Dateline team are in Northern Ireland, where Protestant leader Ian Paisley talks about the extraordinary transformation that's taking place in Irish politics.
The last time George Negus was here, he spoke with Ian Paisley who was absolutely adamant that there was no way he would ever deal with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein.
That is why they call him Dr No. But just a few weeks ago Ian Paisley became the new First Minister of Northern Ireland. Not only that, he is sharing power with Martin McGuinness - Gerry Adams's right-hand man and a former IRA military commander.
On air: 20th June 2007