Did I tell you the one about the so called german smallgoods killer. His last words to his victims were...."I am your wurst nightmare". 3 channels carried polygomy story.On channel 7& here comes another joke, Keysar Trad, said he had talked with his wife about him getting another wife as well as her. Its more likely she'd go looking round for another husband, then him getting another wife. My wife's getting sick of typing for me. I wonder if I should get another one, who can type better. Ha Ha

WA says: Thanks for your comic suggestions, Jon.  Hope you don't mind if we stick with our current writers for the show.

you are right wazz but the storey was introduced as muslim leaders . trad was undoubtedly speeking for his good friend and ex mufti and current imam of lakemba mosque hilaly. who has long seen himself as a chick magnet.

WA says: Actually, the original reports referred to "two members" of Australia's Muslim community.  If you want the sensationalist spin, then you'll be reading and watching news sources that talk about "Islamic leaders".  And I see no evidence of any Hilali link.

wazza muslim leaders in sydney call on govt. to legalise poligamy theres some jokes in that for the show im sure

WA says: Yeah, it's a shame tonight's show is already done.  We might have had a crack at it otherwise.  We'll see how it pans out for next week.  Oh, and please don't call these people "Muslim leaders".  Being the head of some one-man tinpot organisation doesn't make you a leader, no matter how much the tabloid media likes you.

Pigs heads-there are many ferrels living on the outskirts of Camden.Most oppose the school.But,some supported it.Some of these are very ferrel & there has been damage to shops,who have visually opposed the school.Them & the butchers Chami &the development group,who I believe are shonks add up to the 40%probability.Police don't know.But,it sure got them a lot of sympathy like other times.It works. I'm not saying,you censored me, but,the blogsite does not let most posts through. I have complained.

WA says: This line of reasoning isn't very different from the 9/11 conspiracy theories that say the US benefited politically from the attacks so it staged them itself.  In the absence of evidence, it really has to be dismissed.

many posts did not get to you.sbs probs.this is seperate fom those you did not want to post.pigs heads chances of who did it.racists 60% school supporters 40% your defence of tablighi linked terrorism was unconvincing.you have not defended local tablighis the ones that would have been running the school.they are clearly intollerant of other muslims,i would hate to think what they think of non muslims. the school would have been run as an enclave.they would not want it any other way.

WA says: I've put through all bar one of the posts you sent me (apart from the ones you didn't want published).  Where do you get these probabilities from?  Do you have any evidence, or is it just a conspiratorial guess?  I'm not defending any Tablighi-linked anything - I'm just explaining what the relationship is between the movement and various terror events.  And I haven't defended local Tablighis because there's nothing to defend at this point.  And it's not my job to defend them anyway.

heres some observations for you .the war on terror is not over. people take a long time to forget attrocities .attrocities minority = even longer.you cant force people to forget. quacs are bad example of muslims, breeched charity guidlines run illegal prayer centre etc can they be trusted to run aschool for 1200 children.its best they lost they would eventually badly embarrass the muslim communitythanks for the space i thought you could have been more patient and understanding

WA says: No worries.  And given how many comments I've put through saying the same thing over and over, I think I've been pretty patient - especially given the compressed format of a blog.

That Steve bloke sounds like the smartest bloke here. But, I'm sure he would know about Tablighi Jamaat."Richard Reed",shoe bomber,15Tablighis caught in spain with bombs. Not ex-tabliquis. Ex-Tablighis are usually blown up along with their targets, so no one really knows their reasons. No One Waleed. No one knows about Tablighi Jamaat. They are secretive and I would rely on the advice of western intelligence agencies more than anyone else. I would not trust them to run a school.Not many would.

WA says: Yeah, real secretive.  That's why almost everyone in the Muslim world knows about them.  That's why they hold huge meetings every year with millions attending - in full view.  That's why they don't keep a tight reign on who comes and goes to their events.  They'd have to be the worst-kept secret in the universe.

The proposed site was south of Camden township, a 15-20 min drive from the southernmost border of the South West Growth Centre. This site was earmarked by the NSW Government for agriculture (as the Growth Centre eats up much of Sydney's existing food-growing land) and the school's DA didn't comply with Council's building rules for rural land. The mayor already invited the school's backers to look instead at one of 60 sites set aside for schools within the growth area itself. Sounds reasonable.

WA says: I agree.  I think they mayor's statements have been pretty reasonable.

we see asecretive movement 2 in london 1plus glasgow so what will atablighi school produce some students who may be like there uk trained cotemporaries and blow up innocent people if you an expert dot know much about them why should australia take the risk no etremists types should be educating children muslim or not

WA says: I can't really understand this, either.  But if you're suggesting a Tablighi school in Camden will produce terrorists, based on some (difficult to decipher) examples of people who probably aren't Tablighis anyway, then I think that's more than a bit hysterical.  You're talking about a movement of literally millions and millions of people.  And you're prepared to brand them terrorists on no clear substantive basis.

the sbs link often refuses to put through.richard reed shoebomber tablighi did you reicive link to aust.15 spanish tablighis caught bombs not nice a week or two laterey would have been ex tablighis blownup and then they could have been asked why they did it .we dont want these people in camden

WA says: I can't even understand this.

are you saying there were no tablighis in the london and glasgow incidents

WA says: Well, we have reports that one or two of those involved had attended Tablighi centres, but that actually tells us relatively little for two reasons.  First, the Tablighis are a very loose movement - there aren't any members - so whether or not someone is a Tablighi cannot be inferred from their attendance at a particular place.  And second, while there are certainly terrorists who have been Tablighis, their terrorism occurs after they have left the movement.  Hence, they are ex-Tablighis.  In fact, one of the reasons they usually leave is because they find the Tablighis to be too non-political and passive.

'the australian' is agood start for assessing who has links to terror. keyser trad s daughter writes for them regularly on terror and her father knows who is and who isnt good

WA says: Look, I think the Oz is a good paper.  I write for it pretty regularly.  But their stuff on the Tablighis is just off the planet - clearly written by people not familiar with the topic and who have come to it very lately.

no providing links to 'the australian' mainly

WA says: ...which is an authority on religious movements?

I agree Waleed, you can't aseess complex issues on the basis of a flyer. But I do remember a bit earlier you said no one in Camden would even known the name Tablighi Jamaat.The Council meeting was on planning and thats what would have been the talk.We kept religion out of it,except for that crazy woman with the hat. Anyone that can read would have read it &there were 4 links on it for more information.Substantial links.You can soon get the picture if a group should be educating children or not.

WA says: Yes.  Based on a flyer providing links to the internet.