Everyone agrees Australia's population is growing rapidly.
The permanent migration number is currently capped at around 190 thousand people per year.
It has only reached around 160 thousand people per year in recent years.
But, even with that, Australia has the fifth-fastest rate of population growth amongst countries that are members of the Orgnaisation for Economic Co-operation and Development ((O-E-C-D)).
These are generally wealthier nations.
It hit the population landmark of 25 million people twenty years earlier than had been previously expected.
But it's the question of what do about that population growth that brought officials from two different levels of government to Canberra for a meeting.
