Such is the power of Alan Jones that he can rouse a prime minister from his sleep.
Or so it appeared when Malcolm Turnbull and the radio broadcaster returned for their weekly chat on Wednesday.
But with a two-hour time difference - Mr Turnbull was in Perth, Jones in Sydney - it meant the prime minister was up at 5am for the interview.
The radio broadcaster - whose show commands a hefty audience - kicked off their fourth chat since a thawing of their once-testy relationship with a joke.
A chummy, elbow-nudge of sorts.
"We've got the prime minister out of bed!" Jones laughed.
"Good morning Alan," Mr Turnbull replied.
"I'm operating on eastern time so I'm quite awake."
That prompted a mighty chuckle from Jones.
"Stop pretending will you, stop pretending!"
The pair then launched into the day's topics: an anti-gay Islamic cleric, superannuation, land taxes, preference deals, defence base contamination and the Victorian firefighter stoush.
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