SEASON 2 EPISODE 9

Curing Death: A Philosopher’s Case for Immortality

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Philosopher and Educator, Dr Patrick Linden

Death is inevitable, the natural fate of all living things. Right? Well, not exactly. There’s a growing movement of anti-ageing scientists, longevity pioneers and immortality advocates (aka billionaires and tech bros) who are calling time on one of life’s two great certainties - and it ain’t taxes.


For as long as humans have been telling stories about our origins, we’ve been fantasising about living forever. The Ancient Greeks spoke of golden apples in the Garden of Hesperides. In Chinese mythology, it was the ‘peaches of immortality’. In Hindu tradition, gods known as the Devas churned the ocean of milk to make an elixir to cheat death. It seems that every culture has a tale of the quest for eternal life.

Aging is bad for you and death is bad for you.
Dr Patrick Linden

And now, with off-the-shelf anti-aging drugs in your vanity, and listicles of longevity hacks in your hand, these myths might just become reality. According to a motley coalition of life-extensionists, longevity enthusiasts and biogerontologists, we might be on the cusp of giving the human lifespan a serious shot in the arm.

Far from being science fiction or primeval poppycock, some in the anti-death community argue that there is no upper limit on human life, suggesting that aging and disease will one day be a thing of the past, like smallpox and facts.

In this week’s episode, we ask: Can we cure death? If so, should we? And what does it mean for humanity and our beleaguered planet if we succeed in becoming a population of immortals?

I think what we can hope for is this kind of contingent immortality.
Dr Patrick Linden

We sat down with Dr Patrick Linden, an educator, philosopher and the author of The Case Against Death. With a palpable zest for life - and an enthusiasm for radical life extension, Patrick rails against our culture of death complacency, and mounts a compelling argument for why death is the ultimate evil. We touch on developments in the science of life extension, its moral implications, and why billionaires are the absolute worst.

The problem is not that billionaires are spending too much money on slowing aging. It's absolutely the contrary. They're not spending enough money.

Links

Levity

The Case Against Death

Brian Johnson's Quest for Immortality

Don't Die

BBC Radio 4 - Intrigue - Five unbelievable ways longevity pioneers are trying to live forever

Can Science Cure Death?

Live to 150? David Sinclair on why we age — and why he thinks we don't have to - ABC listen

Credits

Grave Matters is an SBS Audio podcast about death, dying, and the people helping us do both better. Find it in your podcast app, such as the SBS Audio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or LiSTNR.

Hosts: Anthony Levin and Nadine J. Cohen

Producer: Jeremy Wilmot

Writers: Anthony Levin and Nadine J. Cohen

Art and design: Karina Aslikyan

SBS team: Joel Supple, Max Gosford, Bernadette Phương Nam Nguyễn, and Philip Soliman

Guest: Dr Patrick Linden

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