Providing education for millions of schoolchildren is no simple job.
Both in Australia and Indonesia, students come from a wide range of economic, cultural and family backgrounds.
It would be ideal for many if every citizen were able to enjoy free, good-quality primary education
Education in both countries is provided by multiple parties, such as public schools, private schools, and schools with religious affiliations.
In this interview, Dina Indrasafitri from SBS Indonesian talked to Graham Catt, CEO of Independent Schools Australia, and Iman Zanatul Haeri, Head of Teacher Advocacy at the Indonesian Association for Education and Teachers.
The discussion is about the challenges facing primary education in both Indonesia and Australia.
The conversation highlights the different ways each country is addressing these issues, including Australia's Special Assistance Schools and Indonesia's Sekolah Rakyat (The People’s School).