Call transcript reveals refugee deal disagreement between leaders

SBS World News Radio: The full transcript from an introductory phone call has revealed Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told the new United States leader he didn't have to resettle anyone under a refugee deal if he didn't want to.

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Call transcript reveals refugee deal disagreement between leaders

"Less pleasant than Putin."

On that sour note, US President Donald Trump ended a phone call with Malcolm Turnbull after taking up less than half the allotted time.

The January conversation was one of a volley of calls to foreign leaders made by Mr Trump following his inauguration, but it made headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Now the publication of a transcript of the informal chat has revealed the extent of the disagreement.

Starting out on a friendly note, the Prime Minister tells the US leader they come from similar business backgrounds, before steering the talk to refugees and a resettlement deal made with former president, Barack Obama.

Having announced a travel ban on several Muslim-majority countries a day earlier, Mr Trump is unhappy with the agreement.

Attempting to calm the President, the Australian leader says the US doesn't have to take anyone if they don't want to.

CEO of the Refugee Council of Australia, Paul Power, says the comments bring up old fears.

"The concern of many people has been that the United States may reject the majority of people who seek resettlement there, and that this would then raise questions in the minds of others about the situation of these refugees, quite unfairly. A solution has to be found, and if Australia isn't serious about arrangements with the United States and New Zealand, then ultimately it's going to have no choice other than to do what it did in the Howard government years, and that is quietly bring refugees from Nauru and Manus Island to Australia."

Mr Turnbull then brings up Australia's promise to accept some refugees from Central America, a move some analysts have called proof of a so-called "refugee swap".

This has long been denied by the government.

Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has told CNN, this could be a reputation-destroying move.

"Then to say 'Hey look, we just want to be seen to be doing a deal with you guys, you don't actually have to take any of these asylum seekers or refugees'. Then as part of the swap, I think what most Australians will find new news, Mr Turnbull says, 'We'll take anybody that you want to send to us.' It goes to deep questions concerning his honesty and the integrity of his dealings with the Australian people."

Laying out his government's policy on immigration, Prime Minister Turnbull says people are being kept in detention centres because of the Australian government's belief that it will stifle people-smuggling.

He baulks at the President's description of the detainees being held in "prison", something which Refugee Council head Paul Power says isn't that far from the truth.

And Paul Power is scathing of Mr Turnbull's characterisation of the offshore detainees as "economic refugees", accusing the leader of misrepresentation.

As the call continues, President Trump ignores Prime Minister Turnbull's request to speak about Syria and North Korea and briskly ends the call.

Mr Turnbull says the leak isn't going to change the way he speaks to other world leaders.

"I think it's very important for leaders to be frank when they're speaking to each other, but I think Australians can see that I stand up for them, for Australia's interests and to defend our national interest."

Also released is a transcript of the US leader's conversation with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.

The two are seen engaging in a war of words, with Mr Nieto denying his nation will pay for a wall along its shared border with the US - a key promise of the Trump campaign.

During the conversation, the US leader asks his Mexican counterpart to avoid the issue when appearing in public.

Speaking to CNN, Republican Representative Francis Rooney has brushed off Donald Trump's pledge as campaign rhetoric.

"But I don't think anyone during the campaign seriously thought Mexico would pay for that wall, even though we all desperately believe in the wall as a metaphor for border security."

Mr Trump has previously accused Mexico of funnelling drugs into the US, and called its citizens "rapists".

The now six-month-old administration is facing even bigger challenges on home soil, with news a grand jury has issued subpoenas as part of an investigation into allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

At a rally in West Virginia on Thursday night, the President was unfazed.

"The Russia story is a total fabrication. It's just an excuse for the greatest loss in the history of American politics. That's all it is."

 






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