• Nakkiah Lui and Miranda Tapsell host a podcast aiming to challenge stereotypes and talk about issues that others are afraid to address. (Buzzfeed)Source: Buzzfeed
Nakkiah Lui and Miranda Tapsell have joined forces to host a new podcast that is set to stir up traditional perceptions about what it's like to be a modern woman in Australia who is often viewed through the lens of race.
By
Emily Nicol

16 Sep 2017 - 3:34 PM  UPDATED 16 Sep 2017 - 3:34 PM

Promising to talk about the things that wider Australia struggle with, Pretty for an Aboriginal, an 8 episode podcast featuring the two close friends sharing intimately about relationships, sex, race and power. The two pitched the idea to Buzzfeed and have been central to the creation of the series which Pretty for an Aboriginal Series Producer and Editor Nicola Harvey says ties in naturally with their own platform which aims to give Indigenous voices and perspectives the space they deserve. 

Harvey tells NITV, " Since launching in Australia three years ago, we've prioritised Indigenous Affairs as a key beat for our News team, working first with the award-winning journalist Allan Clarke (now at NITV) and now Amy McGuire, who is a total powerhouse reporter. Working with Miranda and Nakkiah has given us opportunity to expand our coverage, and to change direction slightly. These two woman are brilliant, witty and so, so sharp, and their insights on a raft of topics, from dating and relationships to sex, weight and race, provides our audience with the fresh perspective they are craving. We supported their vision and then got out of the way so they could do their thing. It was a dream creative relationship!

These two woman are brilliant, witty and so, so sharp, and their insights on a raft of topics, from dating and relationships to sex, weight and race, provides our audience with the fresh perspective they are craving

In the first episode which has just been released, rapper, actor and TV writer Adam Briggs sits down to talk about diverting from the palatable approach to Aboriginal politics in Australia, the influence of hip hop and African-American culture on young black Australia and the projected 'glass ceiling' for Indigenous people.  During the chat, Briggs shares that there was some trepidation about his first album release 'Reclaim Australia' with A.B Original, a collaboration with fellow Aboriginal rapper Trials and talks about feeling very surprised by the acclaim and awards that the album received. 'I thought that was our last record.. I thought it was 'too black' ...that it was career suicide.'

In the episodes that fellow Lui and Tapsell sit down with a host of other local and international public figures including Orange Is the New Black star Yael Stone, actor Shari Sebbens, Lion star Arka DasBlessing Mokgohloa , writer Roxane Gay, Canadian broadcaster, artist and activist Sarain Fox and publishing powerhouse and West Tigers (NRL) chair Marina Go. Buzzfeed Australia

  

Co-Host MIranda Tapsell told NITV that the experience has been not only fun but also personally enriching, as it gave her the space to express certain ideas and opinions that she previously felt unable to.


"When Nakkiah first came to me with the idea of this podcast, I jumped at the chance because I have learnt so much from her. She is one of the major reasons I've developed my own language around my experiences as an Aboriginal woman in Australia. This podcast has been a safe space for me to express myself in ways that I haven't been able to. I have learned to back myself in what I stand for, and that I shouldn't have to apologise or justify myself when I point out the uneven footing between Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and Non-Indigenous Australians, especially when it comes to the gap in health and education."

This podcast has been a safe space for me to express myself in ways that I haven't been able to

The episode featuring Yael Stone, an Australian actress who appears in hit show Orange is The New Black was one that made a lasting impact on Tapsell.

"Speaking with Yael Stone left a deep impression on me. She came into that conversation with Nakkiah and I with a level of empathy, respect and knowledge that is quite rare among white Australia. She told us that the experience of working in the US at the time when the Black Lives matter movement was bubbling to the surface was formative in deepening her understanding about race and her own privilege. And this was the starting point for our conversation, we didn't have to explain to go over old ground. It was so refreshing. She's amazing, and I hope people are inspired to follow her lead. I've been very touched by the non-Indigenous guests who have come on the show."

Harvey says that their hope for the podcast is to reach an audience that can often be overlooked.

"We hope they find it inspiring and entertaining! Miranda and Nakkiah are brilliant but also very, very funny. And we hope Pretty For An Aboriginal will touch an audience severely underserved in the Australian mainstream -- young women (and men) of colour and their allies, who would rather talk about ambition, success and making it to the top than the issues traditionally linked to their race or gender".

You can subscribe and listen to the first episode here.