Rae Johnston is in the right business.
"I love talking," she laughs.
"I just love talking... and I LOVE listening."
Good qualities for a podcaster no doubt, and Rae's had her fair share.
The award-winning journalist has hosted top-rated podcasts Queens of the Drone Age, Hear+Beyond as well as NITV's own Take it Blak.
Though she has turned her hand to any number of topics, she has a well-known passion for science, tech and the 'geekier side of life'.
It's a passion she gets to explore in her latest podcast, focused on the STEM subjects: science, tech, engineering and math.
And for good measure, the Arts as well.
"So it's called 'STEAM with Rae Johnston'..." she told NITV News. "Choosing a title is not my forte!"
"So I started in the games industry. And then I moved more into consumer technology as well... and then the development of that technology and the science behind it, and then into science more broadly as a whole, including the environment, which I'm incredibly passionate about."
Rae says there has been a discussion in the STEM communities lately debating where the Arts sit in relation to their disciplines.
While it may surprise some, Rae says adding the Arts to discussions of the 'harder' disciplines is a perfect fit.
"Sometimes when we're talking about really complex scientific ideas, or theories or discoveries, they need to be presented in a range of different ways for people to be able to grasp them and understand them," she says.
"And we all learn in slightly different ways. And when you can utilize the arts to get messages from science and technology, or (vice-versa) I think they're just incredibly complementary to each other."
While it's being discussed in Western science, Rae says it's nothing new for First Nations cultures.
"When you are talking about Indigenous culture, Arts is absolutely integral. It's often how the scientific information is portrayed, and passed on for generations.
"We look at the sciences and technology, engineering, math, medicine, all that sort of thing... It's holistic, all of this knowledge is holistic, and it's it doesn't sit siloed. It doesn't sit separate from each other. It's all one in the same and Arts is really just a medium for communicating the knowledges contained within the other elements."
This is the heart of her new podcast.
"I'm having a wide range of conversations with people. I love to give the audience an update on everything that's been happening in the world of tech, what's happening on the social media platforms that you're using, or what's Google doing at the moment, so that we're all kept up to date.
"But also just being able to... hear in their own words, even if they are just the company representative, where it is that they're coming from, and how their products and their technology fits in with the world, and what kind of impact it's having."
Every episode will finish with a First Nations voice, from Australia or elsewhere in the world, an artist, scientist or tech worker.
First Nations representation in the tech industry is poor, especially when it comes to women. It's something Rae wants to change.
"I want to see the Indigenous representation of people in STEM go through the roof.
"It does not make sense that we don't have a bigger representation in these fields, considering our ancestry and legacy of this kind of knowledge. We're the world's first scientists."
Recognition of First Nations science and its integration with western disciplines is improving, says Rae, but slowly.
"We've been seeing a lot of diversity and inclusion be focused on... but progress is really slow because not a lot are Indigenous lead.
"So until we get there, you're not going to see actual integration.
"But it is happening. It's happening slowly, more people are paying attention."
For those who might think science and tech are not for them, that they are (dreaded word) boring... Rae is not fazed.
"I think a lot of times when we think things are boring, it's because we've heard them explained in really boring ways! I've heard science and maths explained to me in the most boring ways possible, but I aim to change that completely.
"I personally find science incredibly exciting. And I find the innovations that we've been making in this country since time began as the most fascinating thing in the world.
"So it's my job to make sure that this is interesting for the people that are listening!"
