Ta'aloga ma Tagata Muamua i Ausetalia: Aganu'u ma Fa'asinomaga

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O tagata ta'aalo a Ausetalia ua leva ona fa'amitamitaina ai le atunu'u, fa'atasia nu'u ma fai saofaga i lo tatou fa'asinomaga. O le Olimipeka Kyle Vander-Kuyp ma Matildas lgoalkeeperLydia Williams o ni tagata ta'aalo se to'alua e afua mai i tagata muamua. O a latou tala o loʻo faʻaalia ai le malosi o taʻaloga e faʻaleleia ai le aofia, tutusa, ma le fa'aoso mitamitaga mo tupulaga o le lumanaʻi.

Key Points

Kyle Vander-Kuyp, a proud Worimi and Yuin man, represented Australia in the 110 metres hurdles at the Atlanta 1996 and Sydney 2000 Olympic Games.
Lydia Williams, a proud Noongar woman, represented Australia in the Australian women’s national soccer team the Matildas from 2005 to 2024.

E fa'afefea ona fa'aosofia e tagata ta'aalo a le atunu'u lagona o mitamitaga i tupulaga i le lumana'i?
O a ni lu'i na feagai ma tagata ta'aloga a le Atunu'u?

E fa'afefea ona fa'afeso'ota'i e ta'aloga le aganu'u ma le fa'asinomaga mo tagata Ausetalia?

O le a se talatuu ua tuua e tagata ta'aalo a le Atunu'u i taaloga a Ausetalia?

Aisea e taua ai le ta'aloga a le Atunu'u i le fa'asinomaga o le atunu'u o Ausetalia?
I le tele o tausaga, e to'atele tagata ta'aalo a le First Nations ua ausia le tumutumuga o ta'aloga fa'apolofesa. O tagata e pei o le tagata muamua o le Olimipeka o Kyle Vander-Kuyp , tagata taalo soka faapolofesa Lydia Williams , ma le lauiloa o le pese o Cathy Freeman ua le gata ina fai ma sui o lo latou atunuu ae sa tauaveina foi le mitamitaga o a latou aganuu i luga o le tulaga o le lalolagi. O a latou faigamalaga e faamanatu mai ai ia i tatou o taaloga e le gata i le tagata lava ia ma le tuʻufaʻatasia - o se faʻavae mo le faʻaalia o le tagata lava ia, faasinomaga, ma le fesoʻotaʻiga.

E fa'afefea ona fa'aosofia e tagata ta'aalo a le atunu'u tupulaga i le lumana'i?

Mo le au ta'aloga a Ausetalia e pei o Lydia Williams ma Kyle Vander-Kuyp, o le matamata ia i latou na muamua atu na fesoasoani e fa'aola ai lo latou taumafai e manuia i le malae fa'atauva o ta'aloga fa'avaomalo.

"Ou te fiafia lava i taaloga ma fiafia i taimi uma i le lakapi ma taalo ma fai ma sui o loʻu atunuu. Ae o se mea moni lava o se aafiaga mataʻina ma o se galuega faʻataʻitaʻiga e fai ma sui o laʻu aganuu ma oʻu tagata, ma ia i ai se auala e mafai ai ona e sau mai soʻo se mea ma faʻataunuʻuina au miti, "o le tala lea a Lydia Williams, o se tamaitai Noongar na fanau i le itu i saute sisifo o Ausetalia i Sisifo. I le avea ai ma se sikoa, o ia o le tagata taalo sili ona umi i le au soka a tamaitai a Ausetalia, le Matildas.

O Lydia na fai ma sui o Ausetalia i ta'aloga e lua o le Olimipeka, e lima ta'aloga Ipu a le Lalolagi ma ono ta'aloga Ipu a Asia ma o lana ta'aloga ta'aloga ua ave ai o ia i le lalolagi atoa.

"Ou te manatu o le 'au na tuʻuina atu ia te aʻu ma laʻu 'au, o tagata uma e matua eseese lava talaaga ae o le mea e tasi na matou ioe uma o le matou mananao e tuua le taaloga e sili atu nai lo le taimi na matou faatoa taunuu ai i ai," o le tala lea a Lydia.

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SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - JUNE 03: Lydia Williams, goalkeeper of Australia is presented with a gift from Evonne Goolagong Cawley before the international friendly match between Australia Matildas and China PR at Accor Stadium on June 03, 2024 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images) Credit: Matt King/Getty Images

O a ni lu'i na feagai ma tagata ta'aloga a le Atunu'u?

O le ala i ta'aloga maualuluga e le'i aunoa ma ni fa'alavelave. O fa'afitauli o le fa'asinomaga, fa'atusa, ma le tutusa ua fa'ata'atia ai le poto masani o tagata ta'a'alo a le Atunu'u. Ua toe manatua e Lydia le fusuaga mo le tutusa o totogi ma le aloaia i le lakapi a tamaitai.

"I laʻu galuega atoa, sa fai a matou sikoa i mea matou te mananaʻo ai e tutusa le totogi i tamaloloa. Ua mafai ona matou faʻaalia le fuʻa Aboriginal i se Olimipeka. O lea ou te manatu o le 'au o se vaega autasi e talepe pa ma faʻatagaina tagata e tu atu mo mea latou te talitonu i ai."

O Kyle Vander-Kuyp na fai ma sui o Ausetalia i ta'aloga faigata i Ta'aloga Olimipeka e lua, Ta'aloga a le Taupulega ma le tele o ta'aloga siamupini o le lalolagi.

Na ia talanoa e uiga i le faʻatautaia o lona faʻasinomaga o se tamaititi vaetama e toe fesoʻotaʻi ma lona talatuu Worimi ma Yuin mai le talafatai o New South Wales.

O lona folasaga o le tamaitiiti i taaloga na ofoina atu ia Kyle se auala e faaalia ai le tagata lava ia ma se lagona o le sootaga i se vaega.

"O le vaetamaina i le lima vaiaso o le matua, o se tasi o oʻu luʻitau muamua o le taumafai e galue, Tina ma Tama, aisea ua ese ai aʻu ia te oe? Ae faʻafefea ona ese loʻu lanu paʻu? Masalo o loʻu luʻitau muamua lena, o le vaetamaina ma galue i lena faasinomaga, "o le tala lea a Kyle.

A o taumafai Kyle e malamalama atili i lona lava faasinomaga, na faamalosia e ala i le faamalosiauga mai ona matua ma uo, o lana taumafaiga lea i Little Athletics—o se polokalama e faailoa atu ai i tamaiti le tele o taaloga eseese o taaloga, lea na tuu ai o ia i se ala o le a mulimuli ane vaaia ai o ia e fai ma sui o Ausetalia.

E ui lava i ia luitau, o tagata taaalo uma e lua - e pei o le toatele na muamua atu ia i latou - na liua faigata e avea ma suauu mo le ausia, e faʻaalia ai o taaloga e mafai ona avea ma meafaigaluega mo le faʻamalosia.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp with his adoptive mother Patricia Vander-Kuyp and his birth mother Susan Dawson - Image supplied.jpg

Kyle Vander-Kuyp with his adoptive mother Patricia Vander-Kuyp and his birth mother Susan Dawson - Image supplied by Kyle Vander-Kuyp.

E fa'afefea ona fa'afeso'ota'i e ta'aloga le aganu'u ma le fa'asinomaga mo tagata Ausetalia?

Mo tagata ta'a'alo a le Atunu'u, o ta'aloga e sili atu nai lo le tauvaga - o le fa'aaliga fa'aleaganu'u. O potu loka e faʻaalia ai fuʻa Aboriginal ma Torres Strait Islander, ma tagata taʻalo e faʻaalia ma le mitamita measina i luga o le malae, o loʻo faʻaalia ai le auala e faʻaleleia ai e taʻaloga se lagona o le auai.

Na toe manatua e Kyle upu a le alii sili o le AFL o Maurice Rioli: “Ou te manatua lelei lava i le amataga o le aoga tulagalua na o le vaai atu i tagata e pei o Lionel Rose, Evonne Goolagong, ma sa ou laki lava i le sau o se tagata Aboriginal footy i la’u aoga, o Maurice Rioli, ma sa ia faasoa mai lana tala o se tagata taalo vae, ae sa faasoa mai foi lona tupuaga Aboriginal ma faapea mai, na ia tosoina a’u i totonu o le potu a le aufaigaluega. o se tulaga le lelei o le avea ma Aboriginal, o se tulaga lelei ma e te iloa, e tatau ona e faʻaaogaina.”

O ia fa'amaoniga e fa'aalia ai le loloto o le feso'ota'i o ta'aloga ma fa'asinomaga fa'aleaganu'u, e maua ai le va'aia ma le fa'amaualuga.

O Kyle na fai ma sui o Ausetalia i Taaloga a le Commonwealth i le 1990 i Aukilani i Niu Sila.

"Sa ou laki i le i ai i lena 'au ma Cathy Freeman ma sa ma talavou uma, o lea e 16 tausaga le matua o Cathy ma Kyle e 18 tausaga, ma ou te manatu o le taimi muamua lena e te iloa ai lou faasinomaga ma e te iloa o aʻu o se Ausetalia ma o loʻo ou ofuina lanu meamata ma auro, ae o aʻu o se tagatanuu moni o Ausetalia ma e te faia foi lena mea mo oe lava Ausetalia ma le tala faasolopito. tagata.”

O le a se talatuu ua tuua e tagata ta'aalo a le Atunu'u i taaloga a Ausetalia?

E tumau ma loloto le talatuu a tagata ta'aloga a le Atunu'u. Na latou fa'aosofia tamaiti i nu'u mamao, tau mo le tutusa i totogi ma sui, ma fa'aalia e mafai e fa'asinomaga ma measina ona nofo fa'amaualuga fa'atasi ma lanu o le atunu'u.

Ua matauina e Lydia Williams le taua o tamaitai talavou o le First Nations i aso nei e vaai i ni faataitaiga lelei i le lakapi: “O le taimi nei o loo i ai le toatele o tamaitai o le First Nations i le lakapi... e mafai e tamaiti ona fesootai atu ia i latou, o i latou o a latou faataitaiga.”

Mo Kyle, o taimi o le aloaia mai aiga ma nuu—o le faalogo atu na ia musuia isi—na faamalosia ai le malosi e suia ai taaloga.

“E te toe fo’i mai e taumafai e fai se olaga masani e aunoa ma le avea ma se tagata ta’a’alo fa’apitoa i aso uma, ae o le alu atu i nu’u mamao, ae fai mai aunties, grandmas, toeaina ma tamaiti e, ua matou va’ai ia te oe i luga o le TV ma ua e fa’aosofia ai i matou.

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Kyle Vander-Kuyp near Uluru – Image supplied by Kyle Vander-Kuyp.

Aisea e taua ai le ta'aloga a le Atunu'u i le fa'asinomaga o le atunu'u o Ausetalia?

O tagata ta'aalo a Ausetalia e sili atu nai lo le manuia o le tagata lava ia. Latou te fa'aalia le maufetuuna'i, fa'aaofia, ma le fa'amaualuga fa'aleaganu'u. O lo latou i ai i tulaga o le lalolagi ua tuua ai se faailoga e le mafaagaloina i le vaaiga a Ausetalia ia te ia lava - o se malo ua faamalosia e ona tagata o Malo Muamua ma a latou mea na ausia.

Mai ta'aloga ta'aloga e o'o atu i tauvaga a le lalolagi, o lo'o fa'aauau pea ona fa'atupuina e tagata ta'a'alo a le atunu'u le tu ma aga ta'aloga, ma fa'amaonia ai o lo'o tumau pea le ta'aloga o se tasi o ta'avale sili ona malosi mo le lotogatasi, fa'asinomaga, ma musumusuga.

Mo Lydia Williams, o lana malaga ta'aloga e fai ma sui o lona atunu'u ma le aganu'u na fa'afiafiaina e ana 'au. Sa latou lagolagoina, fia iloa lona olaga o se tamaitai o le First Nations ma taulai atu i le faatumauina o se vaega autasi e taliaina le eseesega.

"Ia te aʻu, e taua tele le avea ma sui o loʻu atunuu ma laʻu aganuu. A matou ofuina le tumutumu, o loʻo i ai le fuʻa a Ausetalia ma faʻailoga i luga, ae o le mea e sili ona taua, o se 'au e matua tamaoaiga i aganuu. I totonu o le matou potu sui, o loʻo i ai le fuʻa Aboriginal ma Torres Strait Islander. O lea o se 'au e faʻaosofia ai le tele o le aofia ma le faʻamaualuga e fai ma sui o Lydia.

Mai le fetu soka faavaomalo i le fai suiga, o Lydia Williams o loʻo faʻamoemoe e faʻaauau le aʻoaʻoina, ma faia suiga mo le lelei.

“Ou te manatu o se mea fiafia tele i le taimi nei ona o le toatele o tamaitai o le First Nations i le lakapi, e mafai e tamaiti laiti ona latou iloa ma mafai ona latou mauaina, o latou o latou faʻataʻitaʻiga,” o le tala lea a Lydia.

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Presenter 1

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You're listening to Australia Explained, an SBS audio podcast helping you navigate life in Australia.

Lowanna Grant

What does it take to inspire a nation? For many Australians, the answer can be found on the sporting field. From the soccer field to the athletics track, Indigenous Australian sports people have shaped the nation's sporting story, building connections across cultures and communities while strengthening Australia's national identity. Guided by the legacy of those who came before, their athletic achievements leave an enduring mark on the country they represent. Through sport's power to foster inclusion, equality and opportunity, First Nations athletes have become a vital part of the national psyche, inspiring generations to strive for greatness and to proudly represent Australia.

Lydia Williams

For me, it's really important to represent my country along with my culture. I think at the end of the day when we wear the crest, it has, you know, the Australian flag and symbols on it, but more importantly it's a team that's really rich in culture.

Lowanna Grant

I'm Lowanna Grant, executive producer of NITV Radio and your host for this special episode of Australia Explained.

Lowanna Grant

Reaching the pinnacle of professional sport requires years of practice and dedication to achieve the goal of representing the nation. For Australia's indigenous sports people like professional soccer player Lydia Williams and former Olympic hurdler Kyle Vander-Kuyp , watching those who've come before helped fuel their drive to succeed in the competitive arena of international sport. Lydia Williams, a Noongar woman, born in the south west region of Western Australia, was a goalkeeper and the longest serving player in Australia's national women's soccer team, the Matildas.

Lydia Williams

I've always loved sport and always loved football and playing and representing, you know, my country, but it's also been really an awesome experience and a role model job to represent my culture and my people and to kind of have a pathway that you can come from anywhere and make your dreams a reality.

Lowanna Grant

Her journey into competitive sport started as a child in the Western Australian town of Kalgoorlie.

Lydia Williams

After watching Cathy Freeman in the 2000 Olympics and seeing a really amazing First Nations woman, everyone watching her winning a gold medal for her country, I think was really powerful. And someone that I really looked up to. But really I just kept enjoying competitive sports because I kept getting better and saw improvement and got to challenge myself. So I always, you know, loved the challenge and never really wanted to back down from it. So that kind of kept me going.

Lowanna Grant

Lydia's sporting career has taken her all around the world, representing Australia in 2 Olympics, 5 World Cup events, and 6 Asian Cup events and breaking down barriers every step of the way.

Lydia Williams

I think the team that I was put in with my teammates, everyone has a really diverse background, but the one thing that we all agreed is that we wanted to leave the sport better than when we first arrived in it. So throughout my career, we've had strikes where we wanted equal pay to the men. We've been able to show. The Aboriginal flag at an Olympics. So I think the team has really been a team to break barriers and really kind of allow people to stand up for things that they believe in.

Lowanna Grant

Kyle Vander-Kuyp represented Australia in hurdling events at two Olympics, several Commonwealth Games, and in numerous World Championship events. Adopted as an infant by Bernard and Patricia Vander-Kuyp, Kyle is proud to be descended from the Worimi and Yuin clans from along the coastal regions of New South Wales. His childhood introduction to sport offered Kyle a means of self-expression and a feeling of connection to a group.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

Being adopted at 5 weeks of age, one of my first challenges was trying to work out, well, Mum and Dad, why am I different to you and how come I've got a different skin color? And that was probably my first challenge was being adopted and working out that identity and, I definitely remember quite clearly how sport came into my life through primary school and then little athletics, and yeah it was a way to feel connected to something.

Lowanna Grant

As he sought to better understand his own identity boosted by encouragement from his parents and friends. It was Kyle's foray into Little Athletics, a program that introduces children to a variety of track and field events that set him on a path that would later see him represent Australia.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

I got disqualified every week in the walk, and I tried the shot put. I tried the high jump, couldn't do the Fosby flop, and I was skinny, so I wasn't winning any of the big sprint races, but hurdles popped up and that was a bit technical and it was a bit of a challenge and I had to sort of jump over the obstacles. So yeah, that became the event I fell in love with.

Lowanna Grant

Kyle's sporting journey was significant to him becoming comfortable with his own sense of self as an indigenous man.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

and I do remember. Clearly around that early primary school years, just looking up to people like Lionel Rose, Yvonne Goolagong, and I was lucky enough to have an Aboriginal footy player come to my school, Maurice Rioli. He shared his story as a footy player, but also shared his Aboriginal heritage and he grabbed me in the staff room and said, you know, Kyle, it's not a disadvantage to be Aboriginal, it's, it's an advantage and you know you've got to use it.

Lowanna Grant

Those words from another indigenous sports person had an impact on Kyle, helping to unlock his potential. Kyle decided he wanted to run for Australia one day to wear the green and gold. Kyle went on to represent Australia in the 1990 Commonwealth Games in Auckland, New Zealand.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

I was lucky enough to be on that team with Cathy Freeman, and we're both teenagers, so 16-year-old Kathy and 18-year-old Kyle, and yeah, I think that really was the first time you're aware of your identity and you're aware that, you know, I'm an Australian and I'm wearing green and gold, but jeez, I'm actually, you know, I'm indigenous Australian as well, and that you've got an opportunity to wear that green and gold.

Lowanna Grant

For Lydia Williams, her sport journey representing her country and culture was buoyed by her teammates. They were supportive, curious about her life as a First Nations woman, and focused on maintaining a harmonious group that embraces difference.

Lydia Williams

For me, it's really important to represent my country along with my culture. I think at the end of the day, when we wear the crest, it has, you know, the Australian flag and symbols on it, but more importantly, it's a team that's really culture in our change room we have the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flag, so it's a team that inspires a lot of inclusion and pride there. So it's been really wonderful to represent both.

Lowanna Grant

For Kyle Vander Kuik, the impact of his success on the athletics track has continued well after he finished his competitive journey.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

You know, you come back to try and have a normal life without being an athlete every day, every week. You're going out to remote communities and visiting. The most remotest communities, people, aunties, grandmas, elders, kids, like, hey, we've seen you on the TV and you inspired us like sort of a moment where you realized, jeez, it's sport's a powerful thing.

Lowanna Grant

From international soccer star to change makers, both Lydia and Kyle recognize the wider impact of their sporting journeys.

Kyle Vander-Kuyp

I've met, I'd say a good half a dozen, maybe to a dozen families and individuals that have called their kids Kyle and one in particular I ran into a family in Alice Springs, and the dad came up and introduced himself and he had his young son beside him and he said, Hey son, you know how I told you your name means champion. This is the guy, this is who you're named after. This is Kyle. And Kyle meet Kyle.

Lowanna Grant

Thank you for listening. This episode was written and produced by Phil Tucak. Sound designed by Maram Ismail. Australia Explained managing editor is Rosa Germian, and I'm Lowanna Grant. Until next time.

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